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		<title>Comment on All the talk about marketing ROI is BS by Lindsay Garrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lindsay Garrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 16:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The two concepts are not mutually exclusive. 

For example, Hubspot promotes inbound marketing (online marketing) very successfully with ROI and metrics as a core deliverable. And as they eat their own dog food, they capture basic lead info before they give away their goodies. Yet, I can&#039;t think of another company more generous with the depth of knowledge that Hubspot shares for free. 

In exchange for an email address, a few datapoints about my company, and a follow-up call, I&#039;ve  taken advantage of their free webinars, whitepapers, ebooks,  training materials, podcasts, et.al. 

That requirement doesn&#039;t&#039; feel like coercion, it feels like a fair exchange. I suggest it&#039;s the followup steps in the cycle that businesses need to make sure is BS-free. When I decide to revamp my marketing to include inbound marketing campaigns, they&#039;ll be on my short list of one to contact because of how freely they share their knowledge and how professionally they have treated us as a potential prospect. 

As a business owner I want to know who shows interest in our CRM consulting services and what has driven them to our offering. I can&#039;t see how it&#039;s coercion, subtle or not, to ask someone to provide a minimal amount of information. Anyone is free to vote with their browser and not play. If they have sufficient interest to provide information, it&#039;s then our job to use that information in a professional and respectful manner to gain new business. 

Marketing has changed drastically thanks to social media. IMHO, the model of capturing leads and tracking the success of various campaigns and sources that drive business to a website is smart business (SB not BS, eh?).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The two concepts are not mutually exclusive. </p>
<p>For example, Hubspot promotes inbound marketing (online marketing) very successfully with ROI and metrics as a core deliverable. And as they eat their own dog food, they capture basic lead info before they give away their goodies. Yet, I can&#8217;t think of another company more generous with the depth of knowledge that Hubspot shares for free. </p>
<p>In exchange for an email address, a few datapoints about my company, and a follow-up call, I&#8217;ve  taken advantage of their free webinars, whitepapers, ebooks,  training materials, podcasts, et.al. </p>
<p>That requirement doesn&#8217;t&#8217; feel like coercion, it feels like a fair exchange. I suggest it&#8217;s the followup steps in the cycle that businesses need to make sure is BS-free. When I decide to revamp my marketing to include inbound marketing campaigns, they&#8217;ll be on my short list of one to contact because of how freely they share their knowledge and how professionally they have treated us as a potential prospect. </p>
<p>As a business owner I want to know who shows interest in our CRM consulting services and what has driven them to our offering. I can&#8217;t see how it&#8217;s coercion, subtle or not, to ask someone to provide a minimal amount of information. Anyone is free to vote with their browser and not play. If they have sufficient interest to provide information, it&#8217;s then our job to use that information in a professional and respectful manner to gain new business. </p>
<p>Marketing has changed drastically thanks to social media. IMHO, the model of capturing leads and tracking the success of various campaigns and sources that drive business to a website is smart business (SB not BS, eh?).</p>
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		<title>Comment on All the talk about marketing ROI is BS by Brigitte Casemyr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brigitte Casemyr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 15:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gee, that reminds me of the late 90&#039;s, where counting eyeballs were all the rage, and nobody (but me!) cared about legitimate ROI tracking...... Maybe I&#039;m too quick in responding to your post, but I could not disagree more with you. You seem to proffer a 1-sided view of the &#039;new&#039; online marketing where simple exposure is all that matters. Tell that to a  CFO who wonders what he gets for a $10,000 monthly investment! I can assure you that you&#039;ll quickly want to start counting leads, closing rates, upsales etc. 

I don&#039;t dispute the value of putting information out there, and tracking who&#039;s reading/sharing/reposting, etc., but that&#039;s only one small  part of the equation. Bottom line: you need both set of activities in order to ensure that you get value for your investment. And at the end of the year, you better have results showing value of new customers, increased sales to existing customers, and not just number of retweets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gee, that reminds me of the late 90&#8217;s, where counting eyeballs were all the rage, and nobody (but me!) cared about legitimate ROI tracking&#8230;&#8230; Maybe I&#8217;m too quick in responding to your post, but I could not disagree more with you. You seem to proffer a 1-sided view of the &#8216;new&#8217; online marketing where simple exposure is all that matters. Tell that to a  CFO who wonders what he gets for a $10,000 monthly investment! I can assure you that you&#8217;ll quickly want to start counting leads, closing rates, upsales etc. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t dispute the value of putting information out there, and tracking who&#8217;s reading/sharing/reposting, etc., but that&#8217;s only one small  part of the equation. Bottom line: you need both set of activities in order to ensure that you get value for your investment. And at the end of the year, you better have results showing value of new customers, increased sales to existing customers, and not just number of retweets.</p>
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		<title>Comment on CPA Alliance Marketing for Software Resellers by Julian Christiano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julian Christiano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 23:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really refreshing article. Thanks for moving along the time with an excellent read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really refreshing article. Thanks for moving along the time with an excellent read.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 5 Reasons You Need Great Content by Kyle</title>
		<link>http://juice-marketing.com/blog/5-reasons-you-need-great-content/comment-page-1/#comment-1</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great commentary on thought leadership, thank you for the input!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great commentary on thought leadership, thank you for the input!</p>
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